Janey's Cancer Caused By Wrong Relationships
November 17, 2002
Thanks for responding.
You have gravely damaged yourself by using psychotherapy. That only spins a person into the wrong relationship, and, of course, adds a new one.
You will not get better, no chance, as long as you deny the "wrongness" of those relationships.
A psychotherapist is insidious. They often insinuate themselves into your life, making you feel that you cannot live without them.
The truth is that you cannot live again without seeing the harm of their "treatment."
You have a very foolish idea about Prozac. Once you take it, it does NOT flush out to the sea.
I have several hundred pages on my web sites about "water-based" toxins, like alcohol, and "oil based toxins" like Prozac and all psych drugs.
The water-based toxins do flush out of your body.
It is now well known, if not to psychs, that oil-based toxins settle into your fatty tissues, and stay there for many decades -- leaking out to give you a drug reaction at various time.
So, if you have EVER taken street drugs, or psychiatric drugs, oil-based, you are doomed until you detox them out of your body.
I know all the details of how to do that.
So, which street drugs and what psych drugs have you taken? How much?
Are you still seeing the psychotherapist?
Janey? You are doomed, and I am very serious. I respond to more than 100 personal messages per week. Many of them are normal people, with normal interests in health, and I help them understand these issues.
You are beyond my help.
Your "affirmations" are also crazy.
You have muddled up your life so much that I doubt very much if you will change.
Thus, you will not get better.
Talking over "wrong relationships" with a psychotherapist, or even "solving" those problems with anti-depressants? This the path of doom.
I doubt if you would now respond, but if you do, I could help you.
You would need to cut off any continuing dependence on a psych-oriented therapist. Believe me, I know exactly the evil your psychotherapist has done to you.
I would no longer trust you to tell the truth on these matters. You would have to inform the psychotherapist you will see her never again, AND give me her name so I can publish it. You won't do that, of course, unless you are ready to disconnect from her.
If you do, there is hope.
THEN, you would steer you toward the detox program that will rid your body of those oil-based chemicals. You may be too far gone for that.
Then, I can give more help.
You have been abused, no doubt, but you have also sought help along exactly the wrong pathways.
There is no luck in your future.
From: Janeyj9 [mailto:email@example.com ]
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 12:44 AM
To: Karl Loren
Subject: RE: Message to Karl Loren from the Chelation Therapy On Line Home Section
Karl, I totally agree with your "wrong relationship" theory and I have investigated it thoroughly over the past year.
I wont drag out all the wrong relationships but heres some of the doozies.....
An emotionally abusive and agressive, alcoholic father, my mother dying of, you guessed it, cancer when I was 11.
I constantly felt unwanted, unloved and not good enough.
I married a wonderful man, but bought a lot of that "stuff" with me and caused myself to suffer because of it.
I've certainly dealt with a lot of the bagage, through psychotherapy, emotional freedom techniques, working towards forgiveness.
My father is still part of my life, he is old and now remorseful and loving. He has become part of my healing team, I love him dearly but it has taken me 30 years to learn that he is worthy of my love.
I couldnt bring myself to tell him I had cancer intially and for 6 months he didnt know,
He thought nothing was happening. After a 10 day retreat working with psychotherapy and meditation techniques I was encouraged to sit and talk to him, I did this, it was incredible.
We cried together and I ended up in his arms, on his knee, like a little girl while he held me and we cried together. It was magical, freeing. I hadnt let him be a father to me and quite frankly he had never known how to father me until now.
I now find that I enjoy going to visit him and enjoy our talks together, we talk about all sorts of things and he helps me to understand the past although his memory has been eaten away by several cva's.
What Im eluding to here is that Ive worked diligently on my relationships and I feel aware of the good ones and the bad ones. Ive gotten rid of the ones that dont serve me to my highest good.
I do a lot of spiritual work and meditation, I get so much joy and comfort out of them.
I agree also with what you say about being effected by others moral codes. It's a little like the analogy of the drugs - you take prozac, then its elimated from your body.
The waste from your body eventually ends up in the sea. The clouds form over the sea causing condensation to take place. The clouds move to the land mass where they rain their contents on the planet and what ever is in the sea is now being rained on all of us. We're all effected by what goes on universally.
Im aware also that every thought has energy, I try daily to maintain a healthy and positive thought process. I regularly use positive affirmations and visualizations.
My affirmations are "Every second of every day the cancers in my body are shrinking becoming smaller and smaller until the dissapear".
So thats where Im at, what next?
Thanks so much for your response, your quite incredible.
The first thing to do is spot the wrong relationship, perhaps years ago, and continuing, that caused the cancer.
It never starts without a "wrong relationship."
Read about that and get back to me?
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Dear Karl, i have metastatic breast cancer, in the liver and lungs.
I'm presently doing taxol chemotherapy.
I drink 9 cups of jason wonters tea per day, i meditate, do qigong, relax, read, eat a vegitarian diet (gerson modified), caffeine enamas, bioregeneration therapy, chinese herbs, i think thats all!
im very interested in the tea and the factor thingy, sorry, im tired.
I was also crushing apricot seeds to get the pips at one stage, after reading about the laetrile i might do that again. oh yes i also take 3g of vitc perday.
so what do you suggest? the tea and the factor stuff? i chose to live.
ps, i like the site, its easy to get around, thanks.