A Strongly Christian Woman Has Trouble With a Bible-Quoting Husband
Messages back and forth between Karl Loren and Mary. Most recent on the bottom.
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Dear Karl,
Since 1995 I've been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia numerators times by numerous doctors.
I have had chronic pain, and headaches along with muscle and skeletal pain; also stomach and intestinal problems.
Just recently I was tested for heavy metals; and I was told after twice having an Iv chelation done that my mercury level was 51 and that barium, cadmium, tin, and arsenic was toxic high.
I was also tested and told that I was B12 deficient, and had hypothyroidism (my T3 and T4 cells being 1.9).
I was told to take B-12 sublingual and Kelp (for my thyroid).
I drink well water that I use a reverse osmosis purifier with, and I have been a fairly strict vegan vegetarian for a decade.
I have been taking magnesium citrate (for muscle cramps) daily, and small amounts of zinc and manganese.
I occasionally have taken milk thistle, echinacea, flaxseed oil, primrose oil, olive leaf, and horse tail (for silica) as I was informed these would also be beneficial for specific purposes. Just this past year have started taking a digestive aid and feel that this specifically has helped my stomach discomfort.
I am interested in finding out more information about how to help myself beome toxic free.
My own mother and husband view me as a hypochondriac.
I only want to feel better so I can enjoy life and my children once again. I have been made aware that there is a link possibly with my metal amalgams in my teeth to my heavy metal poisoning.
I am prepared to have them removed, but I've also been told if they are not removed properly, that I could become more toxic. I can't imagine that my body can withstand any more.
Please write and suggest what might be done for me and what I should possibly do to help myself.
I feel in distress and depressed about this but believe that all things are possible with God.
He has sustained me thus far and will provide a way...possibly through you to heal myself.
Thank you for your time and consideraion with this matter.
May God bless you for helping others in need.
Mary
Dear Mary, Usually someone in your condition is taking anti-depressants. Please write back and tell me what you have been or are taking now of that type? Thanks, I'll respond. Karl Loren
I, on the other hand do not use the computer daily. My husband told me that you had mailed me a reply.
I do not use anti-depressants, although I had taken them , several different ones for very short time periods. A few days to a week tops. They made me quite ill and did not help me to sleep, which was why the doctors prescribed them in the first place. I can't even remember what they were, it was 5-6 years ago.
My husband had encouraged me to take them thinking they would help me to get better.
I have also taken Fexeril and Darvocett and Tylonal all of which don't truly help and I've given up on attempting to use them for almost the past several years.
My husbands doctor wanted me to see a doctor for internal med. and I did go and of course he wanted to prescribe an anti-spasmodic for my intestines and something for indigestion problems, but I told him I would not take them. He was not happy about it and I refused to go to a follow up appt. (why bother).
The only good thing he did was to encourage me to get out and walk as much as possible. If I could walk any distance without difficulty and pain I would gladly do this. I continue to try to but for now I struggle with just getting through the day and the night. I was not sure why you wrote something about being dishonest to me, I think it was because I sent to my letter twice, by accident. I am not very skilled with this computer, and did not know that I even sent it to you twice.
I am a Christian Mr. Loren, and believe we all should keep all of Gods commandments.
I would be interested in your advice about relationships and moral behavior.
I do believe what you said about how a difficult or troubled relationship can be an issue in our physical health.
I know this to be true in my relationship with my husband.
He feels I am the source of the problem, and if I would submit to him in all areas of our life together as he believes God intended in the Bible, then we would have the happy, wonderful life and I would not be ill.
I don't know if you are a Christian and can relate to this, but I do believe that God expects the husband to be the head of the home but not to rule over the wife and children. To govern them with love and respect and to have unending compassion.
To deciple and not to dictate.
To love as Christ loved the Church, so the Bible says. I try to stay positive with my attitude and not to get depressed but I feel so ill and I'm struggling just to find out how to help myself.
I want to be a good example to my husband and to my children through all of this, but it is not vey easy. Christ said he can help us through our trials, not always from them. I would like to be healed and I am willing to co-operate.
I believe what you said about water. What water is safe? Distilled? Is water from a RO machine ok to use or should we be concerned about this as well?
I was quite distressed to read the article about the fertilizers. I am worried now that we may have contaminated our groud and our fruit trees and berry bushes, and ourselves as well.
My husband isn't convinced of any of these things........my sickness..to be real.
The heavy metals in me or the fertilizer.
I must close for now but I do wish to hear from you again and any suggestions as to what I should do first to feel better.
I have treid my of those things you'd written of the acupressure, acupuncture, not the injections thankfully, the osteopathic manipulation and the chiropractic care, and the therapeutic massage. I need relief from my headaches and from the throat problems I'm having, and I'm quite worried about the tests that showed that I was so toxic with the heavy metals. Please contact me again and my God bless you for your work of service for his children.
Sincerely, Mary jaroh
Dear Mary,
My very sincere congratulations to you -- for getting off those psychiatric drugs. You had to be very strong to resist them when both your husband AND the authority figure, the doctor, tell you to take them.
Psychiatric drugs are almost always prescribed for people who describe the symptoms you describe. The doctors, for many years just said "it's in your head!" It was real, that's for sure, but the doctors had no clue on what caused it.
Finally, as doctors often do, the invented a name for it -- fibromyalgia. That word means nothing more than "pain in the muscles."
The doctors sometimes tell, sometimes don't, that there is no known cause and no cure. But they almost always recommend anti-depressants because it is VERY depressing to have pain all the time and not know why.
I believe I can help you.
I understand you don't use the computer regularly, but I hope you will get whatever messages I send you, and that you can go to some of my 20,000 web pages.
For this message I would like you to go to TWO of my pages.
The first is a long and very thorough report on fibromyalgia, located here:
http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/anatomy/p1.htm
That page, near the bottom, links to the page on "wrong relationships." It sounds to me that you very much have that situation. You can read through the fibromyalgia page, or go directly to "wrong relationships" at:
http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/anatomy/p5.htm
Mary, there is a great deal more I can advise -- on diet for instance, and on some very simple minerals that may well relieve your pain in a few days.
I hope you can get a chance to read these pages and then write back to me soon -- I will answer.
Cordially,
Karl Loren