A Hostile Home Schooler Vegetarian

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From: bulkmsm (bulkmsm) [mailto:bulkmsm (bulkmsm)]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 8:38 PM
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Subject: Message to Karl Loren from the Chelation Therapy On Line Home Section


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Dear Karl,  
     I am enjoying your site...I really want to understand a lot of things that you talk about...as I have always been a health-conscious person.
     I am married with two terrifc girls (14 and almost 9) which I homeschool.  I am presently working on a novel and also a children's series (with a spiritual slant).  I am an active volunteer in our community and in our church.  I also work as my reverand's personal assistant.  My husband and I are both former Marines and our kids are in a fantastic youth group called Cal State Young Marines.  They donated their time last weekend working with the Marines collecting toys for Toys for Tots. 
     As you can see, we are very active people...I will be getting a juicer, soon...and want to get back to juicing.  For about six years we were mainly vegetarian and followed a Natural Hygiene way of eating, as in food combining, etc.  Harvey Diamond had a book called Fit for Life...and that got us started.  However, as time wore on and after moving in with my inlaws for 5 years...as I took care of my father-in-law (hospice care) until his death, and also my sister-in-law who has cerebral palsey, we strayed from those dietary rules.
     We are trying to get back on our feet financially...presently low-income, my hubby works for the county...we do the best we can...but I know that just eating food without supplementing in some way isn't enough.
     I have tried a few things that I feel worked well for us in the past...please tell me what you think.  Please be frank.
    1.  We took Cell Tech's Super Blue Green Algae.  That seemed to work really well...we took it for more than six months, but couldn't keep up with the price---especially with four people in the family.
    2.  We took the liquid supplement, Life Force's Body Balance...the kids really liked that and still ask for it.  That seemed to give us good benefits, as well, but we only used it for barely two months.  Again, finances got in the way. 
    3.  I especially like Natren's Healthy Trinity...that is something I will surely go back to...we took that for almost two years...a skin rash that I had disappeared...my daughter's sinus problems disappeared after six months...and to be quite honest, we never felt better internally, and it showed in our skin.  Since it is basically probiotics...I feel that by taking that and also adding a superior overall supplement...I will be supplying my family with the best product that I can.
     I am researching products and happen to come across yours.  I am also interested in GNLD product line, too.  I also want to check into ProPax.
     So you see, I have a lot of work ahead of me...and would really appreciate the straight scoop.  I don't want to be scammed, or led into the Lion's Den when it comes to empty promises, etc...
     We have had too many bad experiences.  Not to mention, money is a factor.  It's a shame that a good product can be made available for everyone...without cost being such a dividing line.  But we are willing to do what we need to do, within our budget.
     I aslo have some health issues.  I really feel that through prayer, meditation, and positive imaging, that I have brought my health to a better state than what it was in the past. 
     I have gained 50 pounds in the past 5 years.  And although I exercise and eat sensibly, it sticks to me like glue.
     I have an enlarged thyroid, what is called a goiter.  It is quite noticeable on my neck.  I had a thyroid scan, and was told it did not look like cancer.  My levels are only slightly elevated.  The extreme symptoms of fatigue have disappeared...I would feel very groggy at times, as if on medication...my depression is gone, too.  I focused my mind in prayer and saw myself well every day...the symptoms are gone...but the outer effects, like the weight and the goiter, are still prevalent.
    There has got to be a better way...and enough is enough.  I want to avoid surgery and the removal of my thyroid if I can.  I am not on any medication and hope to stay that way...I want to handle this the healthiest and most efficient way that I can. I appreciate your time in this matter.  And suggestions that you could share would be humbly accepted and put to good use.  I want to stay healthy for my familly and of course myself.  Because if you don't have your good health, I don't see how there is much more that you can enjoy without it. Thanks soooooo much for your time and I hope your holiday season is a good one, Norma Casini & Family nrcasini@yaho.com

 

What happened in LA with the deaths of 13 patients in regards to chelation therapy by Dr. Evers?  That's quite a  few people dying...it raising some concerns.

What do you think of Dr. Cranton? 

Norma

Hey Karl: What's up with the FDA writing you a letter questioning some of your products?

I mentioned before that our diet was mainly based on a Natural Hygiene lifestyle diet (Dr. Shelton, Dr. Frye)...it doesn't seem that you know about this...the Natural hygiene movement has been around since the 1800's.  It advises a mostly raw food diet.  We don't adhere to that, though.  Sorry Karl, can't see myself stuffing a piece of raw meat in my mouth...I'll leave that to you.

You can't convince me that that is a healthy thing to do.  But that is neither here nor there...all that is important is the quality and integrity of your products.

Norma 

Hello Karl:

Actually, no one told me about your site...I have never heard of you...and I am privy to most of the health products, etc, out there......I've called a couple of friends who work in a health food store, they don't know who you are, either. 

I was surfing the net for health product information on seasilver and happen to run across your website, how strange.

But I love the title: Vibrant Health.

Now as for the selling of your books, why aren't you interested in selling them?  That seemes to defeat the purpose of all this, doesn't it?

I mean, Karl, there isn't a free lunch, so-to-speak.  The free books are great...but I hope that some of your repondents start to help support your cause.

I truly appreciate the gift of the two books...I will be waiting for them to be sent and see if my husband would like to read them, too.

I would really enjoy the exchange of ideas...our life has a strong spiritual basis to it and this sounds like something that might be good to explore. 

I am going to look over your website...although I may not always agree with some of it...it will be an interesting read, I am sure!

but I am more interested in your health product...did you develop it?

What is your background in regards to the health field?

Well, I guess if i get into the site, it should answer those questions...I am quite picky with whom I associate with and definitely want to put the right stuff in my body.

Most Sincerely,

Norma Casini